By Dr. David Duke — The following is a transcript of the actual unedited interview for the Smerconish Show which aired Saturday, January 3rd, on CNN.
I actually liked the host personally; found him intelligent and iconoclastic and immediately understood the depth of his innate rejection for political correctness. I am anxious to read his book on PC.
He was kind enough to invite me to a long two hour lunch after the show. He truly wanted to understand why and what I believe. He asked me so many questions, I could barely chew the food. If he had a seven hour dinner with Fidel Castro, I guess he saw no harm in spending two hours with me.
Though we had obvious disagreements, perhaps he realized that the chronic negative caricature of me came from the fact that I am the ultimate in politically incorrect. He was somewhat philo-semitic, but that’s way Americans are raised in the Judeocentric media culture we live in. At least it made for a stimulating conversation.
The higher bosses of CNN may become suspicious of him, simply because they now know he had lunch with someone who really can share a wealth of provocative facts right from the mouths of the leading Jewish intellectuals of our time.
After I mentioned the book Churchill and the Jews, I was surprised that he also had read the super-proud Zionist, official Biographer of Churchill, Martin Gilbert this book: Churchill and the Jews.
From that the book I recalled for Smerconish, who is of Italian-Polish descent, that Gilbert wrote so approvingly of how the money-poor British aristocrat Churchill, was taken under the wing of Lord Rothschild from an early age, paying for his boarding school and later his travel kit when he went to South Africa. The book reveals how Churchill became a dutiful servant of the Rothschilds and the servants, almost as if Gilbert is crowing about their conquest.
I reminded him that Gilbert also discussed at length Churchill’s famous article, Zionism vs. Bolshevism in which Churchill recounted the complete Jewish domination of Bolshevism and the horrific Jewish Bolshevist terror and takeover of all of Russia. We discussed Solzenitsyn and my personal conversation with him in which he told me that it wasn’t a Russian Revolution but a Jewish Invasion of people who hated Russians.
Gilbert did not refute in the slightest Churchill’s facts about the Jewish leaders of the Soviet terror, and in fact he corrected Churchill’s note that Lenin was one of the very few Gentile leaders in the early Bolsheviks. He almost proudly points out in the book that Lenin too was at least part-Jewish. Lenin, was in fact married to a Jew and spoke the Jewish language of Yiddish, and raised his kids as Jews.
I told him that I thought Churchill’s sponsorship by the wealthy Rothschilds led to his self-deception that somehow the Communist Jews were bad but the Zionists were good. In truth, the Zionist Jews of Israel have become just as proficient of mass murder and torture as the Communist Jews of Russia.
I tried to educate him on the fact that a number of the richest, capitalist Zionists, such as Bolshevism’s biggest single financial supporter on earth, Jacob Schiff, was also a devout Zionist. That Zionists and Communists were two sides of the same coin and that the principle is rooted in the Jewish Neoconservatives who gave us the Iraq war were almost all originally Trotskyite Communists, including Neocon founder Leo Strauss, as well as the Iraq War architects, Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, Podhoretz Kristol and a legion of others.
I think I recommended to him to the read an article in Foreign Affairs, the prestigious journal of the Council on Foreign Affairs (CFR). It is titled: Trotskyism to Anachronism: The Neoconservative Revolution. It nonchalantly reveals the ideological, neoconservative gurus of the Republican Party.
Ironic and yet quite logical isn’t it. Deluded Republicans can shiver with fear about my long ago non-violent Klan past, but don’t mind “former” worshippers of the communist mass murderer, Leon Trotsky. No problem that they to be the ultimate controllers of Republican Party ideology. Of course most Republicans are completely ignorant of this shocking fact. No wonder the nicknamed “stupid party,” has not stopped America’s and the Zio-globalist express train to hell.
Did I reach Smerconish with any of this? I doubt it, for he is saturated not only with Zio-ology from his Zio media catechisms, but also in a way he is mentally adapted by his well paid and prestigious life of a CNN host. It would be hard for anyone to make an ideological leap that would transform his whole life from celebrity to a politically incorrect pariah.
It was much easier for me to simply make the ideological transition to the naked truth as an idealistic, naïve teenager. I had nothing to lose at that age. Although I regret my Klan affiliation on a number of levels, my four years of Klan pontificating made it somewhat easier for me continue my political and ideological evolution. For once I crossed that Rubicon, I knew that even if I recanted, I would never find forgiveness from the ultimate racists who rule over us all.
I passed through the fires of Zio hate so long now, their vile lies and hatred over the years I have steadily and relentlessly gained more and more courage along with a treasure trove of knowledge. So, they have sharpened my sword of truth that I can wield for the benefit of European peoples and indeed, for all mankind.
I know if the people are the West are not free of the Zionist tyranny, nor can the rest of humanity be free.
So, I hold slim hope that Smerconish or the many reporters I had long conversations with, will join our ranks. Yet, I met a number who still have something of incredible value inside of them. And, I felt that even though he writhes in the belly of the beast, NY, and the gray, stark building of Mr. Zucker’s CNN, there is some greatness in him, if only he can dig it out.
I had deep conversations with dozens of leading reporters and was pleasantly surprised to find so many aware of what Jewish NY Times columnist, Mark Brooks’ boast of the “Jewish takeover of America.” (NY Times– Brooks: The Chosen: Getting In)
If only you and I, every day of our lives can awaken those like Smerconish. If only we can fan that spark of freedom and heritage that still resides deep within the soul of so many.
In the end it won’t just be our truth that awakens them. In their instinctive love for highest expressions of the human spirit and human beauty, they can rise in time.
My life for that day of awakening.
I am thankful for the opportunity I have to be just one of many spokesmen for the European people and all people around the world who are dedicated to true human diversity and freedom. For every people must be truly liberated.
I know no greater pleasure, no deeper satisfaction than to speak the truth.
I must mention that I don’t think Smerconish had any part of the editing of the taped segment you will now hear.
Furthermore, I cannot say with certainty that his program was purposefully edited to remove some of my more important words, especially on the Zio control of America. It could have been only by their need to lessen the time with no ulterior purpose.
Once you hear it the original length interview -You be the judge! — Dr. David Duke
Program Notes: Although I believed that the program, like most normal radio and TV talkshows was a set segment length to be run unedited, I later learned it was edited, what you are reading here is the recording of the complete original from my cell phone which I had with me on the set.
I have gotten incredible letters of positive reaction from the show from all over the world from the abbreviated edition they aired. I do believe you will find the unedited version has many of my best dialogue.
A lot of the missing dialogue deals with my comments about the Jewish control. You can be the judge whether it was intentional.
I traveled to the East Coast for the show, and was also scheduled live for the most important political talk show on CNN: State of the Union.
It is CNN’s answer to their chief competition, the most famous Sunday morning, serious political talkshow, Meet the Press.
The current host of State of the Union is the dedicated Zionist extremist, Dana Bash (born Dana Ruth Schwartz). She is very active in Jewish extremist organizations. The former AIPAC lobbyist and Israeli partisan, Wolf Blitzer, has nothing on her when it comes to Jewish ethnocentrism.
Bash stated that she was sad when her fellow Zionist Eric Cantor, the previous majority whip lost his, and lamented that there was less likelihood of “compromise” meaning Republican sellout on the immigration issue.
Obviously once she realized that she might have a tiger by the tail, they suddenly decided to cancel the live appearance and tape the show on the Friday night before the Sunday airing. I was determined to do well in taping, so at that point did not expect to be on the broadcast.
After the tape of the Smerconish Show was in the can, and she and the higher ups at CNN realized that the internet would enable me to expose any suppression of a successful interview.
At the last moment, I was informed that even the taping was cancelled.
Once in a while you can break through the Zio Media curtain, but Dana Bash, née Schwartz, would make sure that I would not expose her bias, for how could she attack me for my defense of European American rights and truly all human rights, when I would be poised to expose her extremist devotion to Jewish racism and the ultra-supremacist, terrorist, state on Earth, Israel.
But, at least you reading this now: the story of Dana Bash and how she kabashed her interview with me!
Transcript Note: [Bracketed text] was not spoken, it is information that some may need to fully understand the dialogue and the meanings in rapid fire conversation.
Listen, Read and Learn — Thanks, Dr. David Duke.[audio:http://davidduke.com/mp3/dukeonsmerconishoriginalinterview.mp3]
Smerconish: We start with a burning question roiling the nation’s capital.
Did the third-ranking Republican member of Congress once speak to a white nationalist organization founded by former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke? That question will be on the minds of members of Congress this week when they reconvene in Washington after the Christmas recess.
Steve Scalise was a Louisiana State Representative on the rise back in 2002 when he reportedly addressed the European American Unity and Rights Conference who was reportedly invited by a long time political advisor to Duke.
After initial reports last week that he attended the conference Scalise said that he did not remember addressing the group but said in a prepared statement said it was a mistake he egrets which sounds like he was there but then that political advisor to Duike who initially told the Washington Post that he was there backtracked and said that Scalise addressed a Civic association. As the contradictory statements are parsed Republicans can ill afford the Scalise situation given their lack of lack of recent success in making inroads in the minority community.
I’ve got a lot of questions and who better to ask about Congressman Scalise’s appearance than David Duke himself?
So 2002 did Steve Scalise speak to the group that you founded?
Duke: Frankly I’m not sure. I was in Russia at the time doing research for my doctorial dissertation and I since earned a PhD. I was in Moscow in fact I was in the national archives almost every day. I did a telephone hookup. And by the way, We’ve got to make something really clear here, they say former Klan leader or whatever, this was 37 years ago in my life.
S: But true.
Duke: That’s true and it is also true that Sen. Robert Bird was in the Klan and a lot of people were friends of Robert Byrd in the U.S. Senate, Democrats and Republicans.
It’s really a biased situation. First of all I was never violent, and I denounced… I denounced even back then violence and left it because I didn’t want to be associated with that kind of taint. I have never supported white supremacism but I read this [this description of me] in the papers.
This [EURO] was never a hate group, the European American Unity and Rights Organization was an organization in its charter is dedicated to true civil rights and stopping discrimination against people, that the best qualified people should be engaged and that every people have the right to preserve their heritage, their freedom and their values.
S: You founded Euro?
Duke: Yes, I founded Euro.
S: This is huge story, it is a nationwide scuffle so I have to believe that as the story you’ve picked up the phone or you’ve gotten on line and you said to the people with whom you were involved in that group that, hey, what’s the deal?
Duke: I certainly did. And I got conflicting reports. One person said that he was scheduled to come but he was a no-show. One person said he did come. I just don’t know what the truth is. It seems that Mr. Scalise thinks that he may have come and that’s why he’s covering himself. [even if he thinks he didn’t come, if says he didn’t and he is wrong, all it would take was one photo for his career to be over, so he chose a hard but safer way]
But we have to cover a deeper aspect of this. If any member of the United States Congress went to the group named La Raza Unita, [A Mexican advocacy Group] and Presidents have done that too — and which means “The United Race” which is an activist advocacy group which is for the interests of Mexican Americans — if that happened nobody would have a blink of the eye.
S: Well you would! You beef about that.
Duke: No, No I wouldn’t! No actually, I don’t sir! The fact is that I believe that every people has a right to work for their interests, to preserve their heritage — in fact I believe that every people on Earth has that right!
I believe that every people and every nation has the right to be free and independent.
That’s what I preach every day. You can hear it on my radio show. You can read it on my website [DavidDuke.com] my books — in my writings but it goes beyond that…
If he would have gone to an African American advocacy group who’s concerned about African Americans, like the NAACP – Republicans and Democrats go to that — No Problem!
If he’d have gone to a Jewish advocacy group — even in advocacy for a foreign country, Israel, and the interests of the Jewish people — No Problem!
But he came to a European [American] organization — BIG PROBLEM!
And, Don’t forget, he is an elected official. What is America all about?
Aren’t we supposed to believe that if you are an elected official, if you serve in Congress, you are representing all the people of your district not just the people who voted for you, not [just] the people who you agree with?
Aren’t you supposed to listen to people and hear what they have to say?
And should you not be allowed to address them about your issues, about your legislation?
S: Eric Erickson the conservative blogger makes a good point, he essentially says we are not talking about the Elks here, we are not talking about Rotary. How do you show up at a David Duke event and not know what it is?
Duke: Let me tell you… In my political life I spoke before leftist groups, before black activist groups that I disagreed with, to explain my position and to support my legislation. Steve Scalise wasn’t a political ally of mine.
S: Are you close today?
Duke: I am very close. [referring to a variety of people of different views] In fact, James Meredith who was once the icon of the civil rights movement. He supported me for governor!
S: Meredith or Scalise?
Duke: James Meredith. Scalise didn’t.
S: Did not?
Duke: He definitely has adopted, like most republicans and many democrats, my programs.
Even Clinton [Democrat President Clinton] ran on my program of “workfare instead of welfare.” Of which I was the first American politician, starting in 1989, who brought that up. [who created that slogan] And that helped him [Clinton] get elected.
S: I’m going to get to that in a moment because you were profiled in the NY Times of all places this week. But just to close the loop on what you know about Scalise and the meeting…Eric Erickson makes I think a real good point, you come to a David Duke event you pretty much remember you were there.
Duke: Certainly, as far as the media is concerned its a very controversial group.
In Louisiana I got 65 percent of the European American vote. [Statewide]
In the district that he represents, I received 60 percent of the vote, 60 percent of the [total] vote [of the district] to be their United States Senator and their Governor!
So maybe the national media which I consider to be very racist against European Americans and I think they have caused the incitement of African Americans against European Americans.
I also think that they have also facilitated European Americans being angry at African Americans.
S: That’s a totally separate issue
Duke: It’s not a separate issue.
S: I am simply trying to found out …was the man there? I can’t understand why there would be…. I’m certainly going to remember the day that David Duke was on my television program.
I would think that he would remember whether he addressed…
Duke: I wasn’t even there. I was in Moscow over the telephone and if he did, he would come at a different time. So here’s a situation. I was not his supporters he was not my supporter. I did not contribute to him. He did not contribute to me, okay? He was not a member my organization. He was a early, young representative who just got elected in Louisiana. He was pushing a tax program and he was coming to constituents.
And again, I believe that every elected official has responsibility to here out people who are right-wing or left-wing.
S: No matter their viewpoint.
Duke: Of course. Because, if you represent all the people you should be able listen to someone who’s pro-abortion are anti-abortion. Even though you might have a different view you should hear somebody who’s pro-affirmative-action anti-affirmative action. the back and if you really want to look at it, the people of my district who voted for me 60%, the highest educated and highest income district in the state of Louisiana.
Okay, they didn’t vote for me because they thought I was a racist and if you look at my campaign literature it is not much different than a lot of Republican literature and some conservative Democrats in the South.
S: Help me stay focused on this incident. You said this week that if he’s crucified I think that was your word choice. Then you’re going to name names. What are we talking about?
Duke: I know some Democrats and Republicans who tried in fact, urged me to support them. In fact I did. The Governor of the State of Louisiana, Mr. Foster wanted my support. [public record]
S: In other words you’re saying there members of Congress today who have relationships…
Duke: Who have had relationships.
S: Who were private and you honor that, but you would call them [On what condition]
Duke: I respect their privacy, but I would call them out if they became hypocritical and go after Scalise [for what they themselves did] We had important openly Democrat and Republican leaders in the state who were public in their support for me.
You see, we had the support of the Democratic sheriff of my parish which was the popular Democratic Sheriff of my parish, Harry Lee who was Chinese by the way [who also called a racist for protecting the civil rights of whites as well as blacks].
He supported me and actually I supported him too, he was a good man. Another was Assessor Lawrence Chehardy was one of most critical and important Democratic leaders in the state. All three of us formed a coalition against the tax increase by the [Republican Governor] Roemer [who proposed a massive tax increase and betrayal]
Later, I, as a Republican candidate defeated the sitting Republican governor. [Roemer — in the Governor’s race]
S: So you maintain relationships today among House Republican leaders?
Duke: I haven’t had any relations or even talking with them the last few years as I have been teaching in Europe. I’ve lectured at 200 different universities.
S: You obviously don’t think he [Rep. Scalise] should be penalized in terms of his stature in Congress for having spoken. But what will you do, what will David do? That’s my question.
If they are hypocritical let’s go back to the relations between you and me. [Them and Duke]. You have been asking me to support you and you promised to support me.
S: You will name names?
Duke: And, remember the vast majority of the Democrats as well as all the Republicans in the House of Representatives in Louisiana voted for my signature-piece of legislation in the house which was a bill, actually a bill for true civil rights. That there must be no discrimination against anyone on the basis of race in affirmative-action.
So, this is whole thing is a tempest in a teapot and I think it’s representative of a media that’s not being honest with the American people, a media that’s truly against European Americans.
But, I also think it’s damaging African-Americans as well.
S: You were profiled in the New York Times on Thursday. The Times said that much of your old campaigns is now political mainstream in Louisiana you agree with that and give me an example.
Duke: I think it’s the political mainstream among most Europeans. When I ran I was a first candidate to talk about how immigration was going be so damaging to the American people. When I first ran I talked about affirmative-action.
I think most Americans don’t agree with the idea that the best qualified person should not get the job.
I believe a person regardless of race should get the job.
I tell you something else. I really work for racial reconciliation in many ways. I really believe that the real …
S: It’s hard to believe that the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan…
Duke: Well, you know that everybody evolves in their lives.
Senator Robert Byrd certainly did.
If he can do it, I can certainly do it.
S: That David Duke is not today’s David Duke. This is a much different David Duke.
Duke: Absolutely. And you can judge me by my writings.
Look, I believe the reason why them the media so hates me and the reason why they make a big deal of it. [and not Robert Byrd] is because I’m one of the few Americans, political Americans who think that we shouldn’t be led by the nose by Israel.
Every member Congress right now is under the threat of being destroyed by the Israeli lobby.
That’s the one issue can’t discuss.
You can discuss abortion back and forth, discuss gun control back and forth. But you can’t have a dissenting opinion in America (politics) on Israel.
S: I can I tell why I don’t think it makes sense, especially in the context of this conversation, because I spent a fair amount of time on your website trying to understand David Duke both then and now. You yourself regard Steve Scalise as pro-Israel, quote unquote.
Why would this all be the net effect of some cabal all against him given that you yourself say he is fanatically pro Israel. You’re here today on CNN, you ‘re going on O’Reilly Factor.
Duke: I didn’t say he was fanatically pro-Israel. I said I wouldn’t vote for because he supports state of Israel which has committed terrorism against American in the Lavon Affair. [when cut off was to complete his statement about the attack on the U.S. Liberty and Pollard spy case and to fully answer the Jewish Cabal question]
S: But you think this is all driven by some bias in favor of Israel.
Duke: There is no question in my mind that Zionists, these Jewish radicals that they dominate Hollywood, nobody argues about the show you in the Los Angeles Times article by Joel Stein bragging about it.
They dominate the Banking institutions of America and they are the biggest contributors in politics. They’re the biggest contributors of politics. The Washington Post said that 50% of the contributors of the Republican Party were Jewish and 70% of the Democratic Party. That’s 2% (of the population) and they control America.
S: I actually think it’s all a lot of misdirection on an issue like this where people are simply trying to find out did the guy come to your meeting or not. You will have the final word then we got to wrap up.
Duke: I wouldn’t vote for Steve Scalise right now because he goes he was that I will and Congressman of the United States that would vote for Israel which ethnically cleansed 600,000 Palestinians Israel recently killed and maimed 20,000 Palestinian men, women and children.
S: I was hoping we were not going to get off on this tangent.
Duke: Even though I think he’s a good man I am not going to vote in that regard because I believe Israel controls the Senate they control the House of Representatives they control the media and I believe… [cut off]
S: and yet you’re here. One last thought. I read the letter that you wrote to the world sort of the new David Duke was in last three years your open letter to the world and you go back and you talk about World War II when you talk about atrocities on both side of the aisle. you use the H word you never use “Holocaust.”
I don’t want to get into this whole debate today but you raised it. Do you believe in the Holocaust? Does the new David Duke in 2015 believe that in the Holocaust.
Duke: Well, Of course I believe there were terrible atrocities… [cut off]
S: But I want you say it differently.. [pronounce the magic word that will somehow nullify all the truth about the Zionist domination of American politics and media]
Duke: Okay, Okay, I don’t care what you call it. I believe in the quote, unquote, Holy Holocaust. But let me tell you something.
Why is it, that there’s no movies, very little very little attention about the greatest Holocaust in the history of the world which was the Holocaust against Christians by the Soviet communism.
And that’s my point. We have a controlled media today that talks about the Holocaust, but they don’t talk about the death and destruction of tens of millions of Christians…
Which was a bigger Holocaust [than any of all time]
S: I want to talk about it. I want to talk about everything. Thank You. [ the cutoff of the interview was signaled]
Duke: [quickly]My book is The Secret Behind Communism and it deals with that issue.
You can write to me at DavidDuke.com and find out about it.